Witch Hat Atelier
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Jul 5, 2024 3:39 AM
#1
Look I really don't want to upset many of you who are hyped for this, but let me get the truth out. The trailer is pre-animated, meaning the final product may not look like this. Pre-animated trailers aren't a bad thing necessarily. We had a pre-animated PV directed by Shingo Fujii for Mushoku Tensei s1 and Chainsawman PV was directed by the series director Ryuu Nakayama himself, both anime had spectacular production. But both anime had big companies handle the production. In case of WHA, Hiroaki Kojima is handling the production, who is infamous for relying heavy outsourcing . Every anime he has produced have been plagued with production problems, ofc many wouldn't notice in the anime. In summer time render Ep 15 was stand out, unlike any of the episodes. The reason being it being outsourced to BUGFILMS. Same with Komi-San's premier outsourced to BUGFILMS again. Kojima's production antics can be clearly seen in Zom 100. They had to delay multiple episodes and even delaying last few episodes by months. Summertime had it's fair share of problems but thanks to the director Ayumu Watanabe, things were controlled. Ayumu Watanabe is also going to direct "Witch Hat Atelier", but here's the problem, he already involved in a director role for a project set in this fall called "Kimi wa Meido-sama". Things become clear when you look at the PV credits https://x.com/Nakayasee/status/1809150201598259405?t=k9iafYZqXvqUuknYpky7ew&s=19 Watanabe isn't remotely related to this PV and the anime production is ongoing. Finally I'm not trying to doompost or spread chaos. I'm just saying y'all don't let your expectations soar through sky for this one. The production conditions are very uncertain. Thanks for reading all that. I'm a big fan of the manga and wish nothing but good things for it |
Jul 5, 2024 3:52 AM
#2
Yup. The only other anime that studio made was Zom 100, which despite being very good, was a total production hell with several delays. After all this time they managed to provide only a short teaser. This is not looking good. |
Jul 5, 2024 4:31 AM
#3
according to what was said during the panel the teaser material is not pre-animated as far as I know |
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Jul 5, 2024 4:35 AM
#4
ArtemisSato said: according to what was said during the panel the teaser material is not pre-animated as far as I know The trailer has a credit named "PV Director" and every single one of the staff for it are credited. This only happens with pre-animated trailers. |
Jul 5, 2024 5:16 AM
#5
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake. |
Jul 5, 2024 5:19 AM
#6
Reply to Piromysl
Yup. The only other anime that studio made was Zom 100, which despite being very good, was a total production hell with several delays.
After all this time they managed to provide only a short teaser. This is not looking good.
After all this time they managed to provide only a short teaser. This is not looking good.
@Piromysl Let them take as much time as they want we want quality animation. |
Jul 5, 2024 5:30 AM
#7
ZXEAN said: BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake. You know,the only good thing I heard about this is that Arifumi Imai is working on it. Everything else is gloom and Doom. |
Jul 5, 2024 5:34 AM
#8
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
ZXEAN said:
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
You know,the only good thing I heard about this is that Arifumi Imai is working on it. Everything else is gloom and Doom.
@Anime_Skaddiel Have you seen the Director's track record ??? One top of that Elden Ring's music composer is working on this project. I don't know what you are smoking... The staff is stacked. |
Jul 5, 2024 5:53 AM
#9
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better. |
Jul 5, 2024 6:13 AM
#10
MusashiKarlsefni said: I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better. who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐 |
Jul 5, 2024 6:17 AM
#11
ZXEAN said: @Anime_Skaddiel Have you seen the Director's track record ??? One top of that Elden Ring's music composer is working on this project. I don't know what you are smoking... The staff is stacked. Are you dumb? i literally wrote 100+ words🗿 and you're asking me If I know Watanabe? 🙏. Even JJK s2 had a staff that'll never happen again and how did it go? broken episodes after another? Sure WHA has very good staff, if the management/production is piss poor, what's is gonna matter? I'm not saying this is for certain. Please read the last few lines of this post... Lastly I don't smoke |
Jul 5, 2024 6:22 AM
#12
Anime_Skaddiel said: MusashiKarlsefni said: I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better. who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐 There were posts on here that were saying it, Youtube comments, twitter posts, it’s not like I pulled that out of my ass. Definitely a minority of people, but they’re still out there. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and this is all just speculation on what the production for this one could look like. I get where you’re coming from, but I gotta see a bit more from the WHA side of things before I start to worry. Instead for now I’m going to live in my blissful ignorance in the fact that this PV was incredible lol |
Jul 5, 2024 8:08 AM
#13
MusashiKarlsefni said: Anime_Skaddiel said: MusashiKarlsefni said: I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better. who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐 There were posts on here that were saying it, Youtube comments, twitter posts, it’s not like I pulled that out of my ass. Definitely a minority of people, but they’re still out there. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and this is all just speculation on what the production for this one could look like. I get where you’re coming from, but I gotta see a bit more from the WHA side of things before I start to worry. Instead for now I’m going to live in my blissful ignorance in the fact that this PV was incredible lol That's an optimistic view. I really love this manga but the studio and producers don't give me hope. The fact that the trailer was pre-animated and it's said to release next year, is hard to digest. |
Jul 5, 2024 8:24 AM
#14
Wow you guys must be fun at parties… |
Jul 5, 2024 8:29 AM
#15
fr just wait for the show to come out before u hate |
Jul 5, 2024 9:50 AM
#16
Anime_Skaddiel said: MusashiKarlsefni said: Anime_Skaddiel said: MusashiKarlsefni said: I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better. who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐 There were posts on here that were saying it, Youtube comments, twitter posts, it’s not like I pulled that out of my ass. Definitely a minority of people, but they’re still out there. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and this is all just speculation on what the production for this one could look like. I get where you’re coming from, but I gotta see a bit more from the WHA side of things before I start to worry. Instead for now I’m going to live in my blissful ignorance in the fact that this PV was incredible lol That's an optimistic view. I really love this manga but the studio and producers don't give me hope. The fact that the trailer was pre-animated and it's said to release next year, is hard to digest. It’s a fine balance of keeping an open mind and being optimistic, while also not getting my hopes up too much to allow major disappointment. I’d like to believe the Zom 100 fiasco helped them learn how to handle this better, but who knows. Honestly the main thing I worry about is if they’d even continue to adapt it, I don’t want it to be a 1 off season. Or if they do continue it, I want it to maintain the same quality if they manage to deliver. It’s the same worry I’ve had with things like Frieren and Bocchi the Rock. |
Jul 5, 2024 10:28 AM
#17
I understand being skeptical, but just let them cook for now. We still have a while until its released. |
Jul 5, 2024 11:57 AM
#19
ZXEAN said: BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake. You clearly don’t know shit about anime studios then |
Jul 5, 2024 1:54 PM
#20
Idk what gave you the perception that Bind is a big company lol |
Jul 5, 2024 1:55 PM
#21
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
MusashiKarlsefni said:
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐
@Anime_Skaddiel kouki fujimoto was not a main animator 💀 |
Jul 5, 2024 1:58 PM
#22
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
ZXEAN said:
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
You know,the only good thing I heard about this is that Arifumi Imai is working on it. Everything else is gloom and Doom.
@Anime_Skaddiel I’ve heard great things about the directors on it. Which makes sense when you look at a star studded line up with watanabe, kawagoe, yajima, and ueda. Not to mention we will clearly have our consistent animators like William Lee, Harvard dale, hayato torii, haruyoshi nomura, and so on. It has lots of talent, the only real question is how much they have done rn. I’d say prolly 4 or so eps realistically. Which isn’t bad considering they prolly still have another year to work on it before it airs |
Jul 5, 2024 3:03 PM
#23
Reply to OvergrownRover
ZXEAN said:
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
You clearly don’t know shit about anime studios then
@OvergrownRover You know lot. Do you work for BUG FLIMS??? |
Jul 5, 2024 6:13 PM
#24
Reply to OvergrownRover
ZXEAN said:
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
BUG FLIMS will not make this same mistake twice in a row. They have learned from their mistake.
You clearly don’t know shit about anime studios then
BUG FILMS has made one show. One! It is impossible to know what they're normally like on the basis of a single show. Even if you think you know a lot about "anime studios" in general. Cloverworks for example famously fumbled Wonder Egg Priority and S2 of The Promised Neverland, but also made Bocchi the Rock and many other acclaimed works. |
VolfiJul 5, 2024 6:18 PM
Jul 5, 2024 7:01 PM
#25
Reply to Volfi
BUG FILMS has made one show. One! It is impossible to know what they're normally like on the basis of a single show. Even if you think you know a lot about "anime studios" in general. Cloverworks for example famously fumbled Wonder Egg Priority and S2 of The Promised Neverland, but also made Bocchi the Rock and many other acclaimed works.
@Volfi You are right btw Don't forget about A1 Picture's Nier Automata and 86 both face similar difficulties on the other hand Mappa's Yuri on Ice movie got cancelled. That doesn't take away the fact that both of them are top tier anime studio. |
Jul 5, 2024 7:04 PM
#26
I ain’t readin allat but I wouldn’t be suprised if they go all out on the animation for the first ep to hook people but then the rest of the show is just mediocre animation. I’ve read the manga and the story is good tho so it won’t be too bad |
Jul 5, 2024 8:46 PM
#27
Peenutz said: Idk what gave you the perception that Bind is a big company lol Bind isn't but Egg Firm and Whitefox are |
Jul 5, 2024 9:43 PM
#28
Well I got fooled by the PV ….. 😕 |
HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Jul 6, 2024 9:01 AM
#29
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
Peenutz said:
Idk what gave you the perception that Bind is a big company lol
Idk what gave you the perception that Bind is a big company lol
Bind isn't but Egg Firm and Whitefox are
@Anime_Skaddiel White Fox is quite small, Egg Firm are also simply the producers, Just like how twin engine producers of zom 100 aren’t small, they don’t matter for man power |
Jul 6, 2024 7:36 PM
#30
Toxic fan base for an anime that hasn’t even come out yet is crazy lmao. You guys need to calm down💀 |
Jul 10, 2024 10:07 AM
#31
Reply to Xokanashimi
Toxic fan base for an anime that hasn’t even come out yet is crazy lmao. You guys need to calm down💀
@Xokanashimi lol he's just being rational and down-to-earth. But yeah, just because u said a bunch of words doesn't mean u can't be a braindead idiot who curse everyone who disagree with u |
Jul 10, 2024 12:48 PM
#32
https://x.com/gojoproblem/status/1809328686770032882 Will you ppl now touch grass please? |
Aug 5, 2024 12:14 AM
#33
Why do you people do this much research about the production side of things? If there’s a good trailer, it’s normal to get excited. If it doesn’t meet the expectations then it can be evaluated accordingly. All these knowledge about scheduling, outsourcing, production habits of directors and stuff are waste of time. Get a life, this is just a hobby if you’re not producing animation yourself or something. |
Aug 5, 2024 12:26 AM
#34
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
MusashiKarlsefni said:
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐
@Anime_Skaddiel Wtf is Sakuga community? LMAO. Community of idle nerds who never leave their homes and take showers? |
Aug 5, 2024 11:26 AM
#35
Raiseii said: @Anime_Skaddiel Wtf is Sakuga community? LMAO. Community of idle nerds who never leave their homes and take showers? that should be you not me. There's many people who love to know who's making their favorite shows and I could care less about what you think about it. Did I say anywhere that I didn't enjoy the trailer or the anything about the quality of trailer? The working conditions in the industry isn't to be made fun of. Cheking out directors and animators is my hobby and many others too, just pipe down and gulp some cold water |
Aug 8, 2024 2:26 AM
#36
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
Raiseii said:
@Anime_Skaddiel Wtf is Sakuga community? LMAO. Community of idle nerds who never leave their homes and take showers?
@Anime_Skaddiel Wtf is Sakuga community? LMAO. Community of idle nerds who never leave their homes and take showers?
that should be you not me. There's many people who love to know who's making their favorite shows and I could care less about what you think about it. Did I say anywhere that I didn't enjoy the trailer or the anything about the quality of trailer? The working conditions in the industry isn't to be made fun of. Cheking out directors and animators is my hobby and many others too, just pipe down and gulp some cold water
@Anime_Skaddiel Don't waste your breath arguing with dimwits in this platform, if they gonna make the dumb post of "Why this anime is so bad? xxxx" in 2025 you can just move on with a smile |
Aug 8, 2024 8:39 AM
#37
Aug 28, 2024 7:38 PM
#38
tnx for the head up! |
Aug 29, 2024 2:21 PM
#39
Reply to Anime_Skaddiel
MusashiKarlsefni said:
There were posts on here that were saying it, Youtube comments, twitter posts, it’s not like I pulled that out of my ass. Definitely a minority of people, but they’re still out there. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and this is all just speculation on what the production for this one could look like. I get where you’re coming from, but I gotta see a bit more from the WHA side of things before I start to worry. Instead for now I’m going to live in my blissful ignorance in the fact that this PV was incredible lol
Anime_Skaddiel said:
who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐
MusashiKarlsefni said:
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
I’m giving it a chance before dooming. People said the same thing about Frieren how it wasn’t gonna look as good in the trailer, and that the trailer didn’t look good to begin with to some, and it came out looking even better.
who tf said that? No one in the sakuga community or twitter said anything about it. If anything people had high expectations from Frieren. I mean the animation producer is literally Yuiichiro Fukushi, one of the best in the industry in terms of management and bringing in talent for the project. Not to mention it had Koki Fujimoto credited as main animator. Best of all Toru Iwazawa was the action director, his experience and connection is insane. I don't know who told you these things, Frieren was always meant to be a one of a kind show. Bugfilms on the other hand 🤐
There were posts on here that were saying it, Youtube comments, twitter posts, it’s not like I pulled that out of my ass. Definitely a minority of people, but they’re still out there. It hasn’t even been 24 hours and this is all just speculation on what the production for this one could look like. I get where you’re coming from, but I gotta see a bit more from the WHA side of things before I start to worry. Instead for now I’m going to live in my blissful ignorance in the fact that this PV was incredible lol
That's an optimistic view. I really love this manga but the studio and producers don't give me hope. The fact that the trailer was pre-animated and it's said to release next year, is hard to digest.
Anime_Skaddiel said: The fact that the trailer was pre-animated and it's said to release next year, is hard to digest. Idk, production time seems quite long on paper. Back in the days, even few months before Zom release, there were rumors about Imai participation on Bugfilms project. Everyone then thought it was Zom, but it's recently turned out to be WHA. I doubt that rumor about certain enshutsu participation could be available to leakers at the early stages of production. |
Aug 29, 2024 2:34 PM
#40
Sep 10, 2024 7:32 AM
#41
Reply to ZXEAN
@Anime_Skaddiel Have you seen the Director's track record ??? One top of that Elden Ring's music composer is working on this project. I don't know what you are smoking... The staff is stacked.
@ZXEAN Also Kamome herself is helping on the production as said in the interview for e.x she's helping with how the Magic Circles will be drawn and along with answering the staff's questions so they can make it the best it can be. Plus I'm glad it's a studio that has a passion for making it cause they also love the work and want it to be the best it can be, it was one of their main projects when the studio was formed. It being a smaller studio has its benefits. and if it doesn't turn out as great I would still respect it and give them a thumbs up for the end product still cause I think it still deserves it for the effort they did. Cause truthfully some people are acting this is a bad thing cause of ONE problem that is about airing problems (is doomposting these days just a hobby like honestly), understand the concern but I would not act like suddenly it's the worst studio for a project to be under even though it being adapted by BUGFLIMS wasn't new in fact it was the main rumor considering the Bug Films founder on Twitter (or the official Bug-Films twt) retweeted and/or liked the anime announcement for WHA. |
Una_Sama89Oct 7, 2024 6:26 AM
Sep 10, 2024 7:37 AM
#42
lol you made good points and people hate on you for it damn never change mal never change anyway i will keep my expectations low so that if it becomes better then very good |
Sep 12, 2024 4:47 AM
#44
This one will get a huge hype like frieren |
Oct 30, 2024 8:19 AM
#46
Reply to highlightxii
tnx for the head up!
@highlightxii this was false info btw https://x.com/gojoproblem/status/1809328686770032882 The director credited in the anime trailer was the dictator in charge of editing the scenes for the trailer |
Jan 7, 11:19 AM
#47
Tbh I already have my expectations in the ground when I heard the studio was going to be BUG Films, But let's wait and see what happens. I t would've been better if it was given to WIT or to Studio Kafka. |
Jan 7, 11:32 AM
#48
Anime_Skaddiel said: Kojima's production antics can be clearly seen in Zom 100. They had to delay multiple episodes and even delaying last few episodes by months. Zom 100 was great regardless, I didn't care much about the delay, I'm not that impatient, good things take time. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
Jan 8, 10:42 AM
#49
Zarutaku said: Anime_Skaddiel said: Kojima's production antics can be clearly seen in Zom 100. They had to delay multiple episodes and even delaying last few episodes by months. Zom 100 was great regardless, I didn't care much about the delay, I'm not that impatient, good things take time. Taking time is always a good thing but delaying episodes between production will make things 10x worse |
Jan 8, 10:46 AM
#50
Una_Sama89 said: @highlightxii this was false info btw https://x.com/gojoproblem/status/1809328686770032882 The director credited in the anime trailer was the dictator in charge of editing the scenes for the trailer I'm not a fan of misinformation and I will always apologise if I said anything bad. But what Kawagoe himself says is otherwise . The PV was pre-animated. ![]() |
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